Frequently Asked Questions about the DoC,
Other questions we frequently hear
What is the DoC?
We're an eclectic bunch of people, ranging from amateur computer enthusiasts to professionals. A loosely (dis)organized group of people who occasionally work together on projects. Our individual skill-sets that span all possible aspects of computers and electronics and more.
Who are the DoC?
Peter Shipley, Dan Meriwether, Seric, Cyber, Sinster, Phon-E, David Gessel, Wyatt Earp, Stryder, Maglite, B-$tring, and SevenTek.
What does the acronym DoC stand for?
The Dis Org Crew. (or Dis.Org Crew)
Who came up with the name?
Is there a story behind that?
One day, when Se7en was being interrogated by Agent Mark Johnson (who at the time was with the San Francisco office of the FBI's computer crime squad) at a local coffee shop. During the meal, Agent Johnson blurted out "We know what kind of things you, and the Dis.Org Crew, are up too!" At first, the users of the dis.org domain were a bit alarmed to hear that the FBI considered us to be some sort of "hacker gang". But we also realized that Dis.Org Crew was a pretty catchy name. It even makes a cool-sounding three letter acronym! So the name stuck.
What does Dis.Org mean?
Dis = "to flame, cut down."
: "Roman god of the Underworld"
: "A City in Hell"
Org = "organization"
"corruption" + "organization" (disorganized?)
"cut down" + "organ" (disstaffed?)
"corruption" + "organ" (disjointed?)
"Underworld" + "organization" (dis(H)aster?)
"distant" + "organ" (discharge?)
"flame" + "organization" (dismember?)
"distant" + "organization" (dismissed?)
"this" + "organ" (dislocated?)
"A City in Hell" + "organization" (hell's municipality)
Digial Information Society
Downtown Internet Slim
Digital Internet Slim
D.I.S.O.R.G.: Digital Individual Skilled in Online Repair and Gratification
Can I have an account at dis.org?
Accounts are only given to people who have a reference from a current user, and that buy us plenty of beer!
What free services are available for the public to use?
The web server, (with over 20 virtual hosts), the ftp server (with several more virtual hosts), the internet fax server, and the DefCon Stuff (dc-stuff) mailing list.
How do you unsubscribe from the dc-stuff mailing list?
You send the command "unsubscribe dc-stuff" in the body of an email message to email@example.com
I tried unsubscribing from the list and it didn't work.
The most likely cause for this is a change in email address. The majordomo server makes a feable attempt at preventing others from unsubscribing you by comparing the email address in the from header to the address it stored for you when you first subscribed. If they do not match exactly, the unsubscribe request will fail.
For example, let's say I were to go into my mail client and set my email address to firstname.lastname@example.org, then I sent a message to email@example.com with "subscribe dc-stuff" in the body. Several weeks go by, and I decide (because I am going to email my grandmother or something) to change my address to Wyatt@dis.org. Even more weeks go by, and I decide to unsubscribe to the dc-stuff list. So I read the Majordomo help message and then send an email with "unsubscribe dc-stuff" in the body.
But the unsubscribe request fails! Why? Because I am now Wyatt@dis.org! He is not even subscribed to the list. But firstname.lastname@example.org is. So I reread the Majordomo Help Message again, and I see I can send the command "unsubscribe dc-stuff email@example.com". But that fails too? Why? Because I am now Wyatt@dis.org! He is not allowed to unsubscribe anybody except himself. I must go into my email client and change my email address to firstname.lastname@example.org (the same as it was when I subscribed) and resubmit the unsubscribe request.
What have we learned here? If your email address has changed, you will not be able to unsubscribe from the list, even if you seem to be doing it correctly. If you used be 1234,email@example.com, and now you are firstname.lastname@example.org, that will cause this!
If you have tried everything, and you still can't manage to get off the dc-stuff list, send me Wyatt@dis.org a quick note explaining the problem. You must have tried to unsubscribe yourself and failed. Wyatt helps those who help themselves.
Where does the name kizmiaz come from?
It is song by the Cramps
Album: Date with Elvis
(This may spawn a new question: How do I play .MP3 files? -ed)
How many systems do you people have?
PG&E Loves us...
Hey D00dz got any 0-day warez??
No! Shut up, and go away!
Will you hack into my work/school/competitors computer?
No! Shut up, and go away!
Will you hack into my computers?
Not unless you pay us. Check out our consulting services at www.network-security.com
I am a newbie and I want you to teach me to become an 31337 evil haxor. Will you show me?
No! Shut up, and go away!
Can Pete get us into the nightclub for free?
No... They closed the place after the last shooting.
Nice radio! What kind is it?
That is a Yaseu FT50r. This handy piece of equipment will someday have it's own FAQ!
Are you guys like, in a band, or something?
Sure! Our industrial band is named "War Pidgeon". Artists include:
Are you guys Gods?
No, God doesnt have to pay taxes, we do.
Somebody just handed me a bottle of DoC beer. Is this stuff safe to drink?
It is important to exercise extreme caution with any sort of Dis.Org commemerative brew. Especially dangerous is the "Brown Box Barley Wine" that was distributed by the Crew at recent DefCon. We have reports that one bottle of this stuff left 3 people completely debilitated at a recent party. One of the people affected awoke the next day to describe his injuries as "Massive Head Trauma."